Friday, April 11, 2008

Its pro-Israel to talk to Hamas

Oh yes it is.

Paul Woodward at War in Context makes an excellent point. Since the majority of Israeli citizens support the idea of talking to Hamas, how can it be 'anti-Israel' to do so? Is it not the US and Israeli governments, and any others (like the UK) supporting the vicious and brain-dead policy of isolating and ignoring the Palestinians' elected representatives, who are being 'anti-Israel'? When you oppose the will of the Israeli majority (let alone their interests) which Israel are you supporting?

Ex US President Jimmy Carter has made the impeccably 'pro-Israel' decision to meet with Hamas leader Khaled Meshal next week. Its a move that's to be applauded. Only dialogue is going to end the conflict. Israel and its supporters should know by now that the Palestinians can not be beaten with violence, starvation or any other blunt instrument. 60 years after the Deir Yassin massacre - the defining moment of the campaign of ethinic cleansing that brought Israel into existence - the Palestinians are still there, stubbornly insisting on their humanity in the face of all attempts to erase them. If not for the sake of basic morality then at least for the sake of cold-blooded imperial pragmatism, its time for the US and its client to face reality, talk to the Palestinians' respresentatives, and bring this squalid episode of history to a sensible conclusion.
See also on this, Tony Karon's "Jimmy Carter and the Art of Growing Up".

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Blogger Abe Bird said...

Israel's majority doesn't support the idea of talking to Hamas, but the idea of reaching a cease fire (Hudna) through third part moderator. I much convinced that they don't believe that any good will follow up because the firms stand of the Hamas not to recognize the right of Israel to exist in any condition.

Israel shouldn't tolerate any Hamas terror initiatives and should hit back in extra power in order, if not to break them apart, to minimize the risk of their terror actions.

As long as the most of the Arab Palestinian will put their trust in Hamas ideas there won't be peace between the Arabs and the Jewish Palestinians.

11:11 AM  
Blogger Abe Bird said...

"…the Jewish faith does not wish for peace nor stability, since it is a faith that is based on murder: 'I kill, therefore I am' … Israel is based only on blood and murder in order to exist, and it will disappear, with Allah's will, through blood and Shahids [martyrs]."

Dr. Yussuf Al-Sharafi, Hamas representative, April 12, 2007; as reported by Palestinian Media Watch, April 23, 2007)

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Hamas is not looking for peace agreement but for western appeasing of the Muslim brigades that fight for cleansing in the ME from Jews and Christians. After millions of Christians Arabs and non other Arabs, killed, rescued or left the ME in the last century, the extreme Muslims feel that their efforts are not for vein. Only Israel stands in between their defeating and their success.

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"The constants and the strategy of Hamas do not change according to circumstances. Hamas will stay faithful to jihad, to resistance, to guns, to Palestine and to Jerusalem."
(Ismail Haniyah, Hamas leader, at an election rally in Gaza, January 20, 2006, Gulf Daily News, Bahrain)

11:31 AM  
Blogger David Wearing said...

follow the link above, Abe.

In a Haaretz-Dialog poll last month, 64 percent of Israelis said they supported direct talks

So I guess my supporting such talks makes me pro Israel, and you opposing them makes you anti.

:-)

We can all come up with scary quotes from either side - Hamas and Israel. It adds nothing. What's relevant, in the real world, is that negotiations to end conflicts involve two sides that despise each other; by definition. Saying, 'we won't talk to Hamas because they're bad people' is not a grown up or credible position.

And its anti Israel, and you know how bad it is to be anti Israel, don't you?

9:51 PM  

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